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This is the official blog of indie author / adventure writer Andy R. Bunch, author of the fantasy book, "Suffering Rancor." As always, I'll post funny or amazing things I find in my travels or from poking around online. This is a great place to kick back and relax a bit. You may note that I’m not too clean or too dirty. For more information on my book, go to Here are links to first two books and

Wednesday, March 26, 2014

Fun Fact with English: Proper use of i.e. etc. and e.g.

So it turns out that "e.g." stands for "exempli gratia," which means for the sake of example, and it indicates the list that follows are examples.

On the other hand, "i.e." is the abbreviation of "id est:" meaning "that is." It indicates a list of possibilities.

"Etc." is short for et cetera (also seen as "&c.") which means "and other things." It indicates "and so forth" or continuation in kind. So it's not considered proper to use etc. to end a list that began with e.g. but you can use it to end a list that began with i.e. Here's why. You don't have endless examples and if you did you wouldn't list them. You'd list an example to get out of having to create an exhaustive list. You could, however, have endless possibilities, in which case you'd want to end it with i.e.

For example: The director gives stage directions (e.g. lights, camera, action).  A Canterbury Tales originally contained several hundred lines in Middle English (i.e. What that aprill with his shoures soote, etc.).

Etc. is occasionally pluralized to create a lofty sounding word meaning "sundries." As in, "We took along pots, pan, and etceteras."


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